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Spiritual Inquiry
It's About Time to Find Peace

Interview with Stèphano Sabetti, Los Angeles
by Katarina Weiher

(source: Energia 2005)

K: What is "Spiritual Inquiry"?

S: Literally considered it's a honest inquiry into essential phenomena in general, and for the specific person especiallly: What is this person in full?

We examine: who is this person ”X”, who calls itself ”X”. This person knows itself more or less on the psychological level, but there is something else, a more essential process which is coming through the person. Informations or challenges in a more narrow sense might be coming through which are not only relating to this, but in a broader sense are connected to the spirit – as we call it.

Let's take, for instance, someone who would like to be a sozial worker in order to help people. Spiritually, he discovers that with all his skills, he can learn the most when contact with the so-called ”heavy cases”.

The Ego is moving on a feeling level of good or not good - for instance, the wish to help others. Yet spiritually it's all about the challenge to learn, about expansion of the actual feeling, of what has to be done right at this moment.

K: How do you observe the significance, the essence?

S: It is a subtle process, it can't be manipulated by the Ego. You come to a deep satisfaction when you follow the messages or the process. Calmness and clearness turn up even in difficult situations.

We inquire into every feeling, thinking, doing, - even though ”essential” means what is exactly necessary. If we observe our feelings, thoughts and our doing calmly and honestly, we see that a lot of it is not really necessary, not ”essential”. However, for us it is important.

”Essential Inquiry” is like a boat ride through reeds. Each experience is put aside, one after another, like the reed - ”Neti-Neti” we call this movement: not this, not that. If we continously stay with this movement, we find that only very little is essential, which is important for the ”I”.

Therefore, the precondition is to be prepared to challenge the inquiring person, to challenge his/her understanding of being a man or a women, to challenge the job. Freed of all these images, masks, wishes - wo is this person then?

K: Is ”Essential Inquiry” then equivalent to ”Spiritual Inquiry”?

S: ”Spiritual Inquiry” is a general expression for every form of a spiritual process. ”Essential Inquiry” is more of a stance or method of inquiring, it is a part of the ”Path of No Way”.

K: Right now you are writing a book about this, and you mention two important elements, the ”Process Meditation” and the ”Middle Course of Confluence”. What's that?

S: ”Process Meditation” is a method of inquiry which is build upon the eternal flow within us.

The more shallow parts within us are connected with the deep essential elements by this eternal flow. Through our attention, we follow this movement from the surface to the mor deeper themes – we call this the ”Involutionary Process” or the ”Gravity of Self”.

It's quite simple. You start where you are at the moment – with your thoughts, movements, breathing, and you then go further with everything. You observe the following as movement. This way of meditation doesn't focus on something static befor us, but is more like a creek flowing down a mountain. By this downflow, it finds its way through everything until eventually it arrives in the valley.

To medidate this way makes it easy. You don't have to be clever, you don't have to follow a ritual or specific regulations. All you need is the willingness to learn to follow your inner movement. The process looks different for each person. Even so, there are general principles.

Therefore it is essential to learn about one own's system. I study myself, my system, and it becomes my teacher until ”I” as student and ”It” as teacher are becoming one, eventually.

K: For me this is ”Virtual Learning” - as we understand it in ”Energy Pedagogy”.

S: Correct. ”Virtual Learning” means the willingness to learn each moment what you have to learn. Though sometimes we follow matters, oftener it is processes, or movements within us, through us, or movements with others.

We can talk about love as an abstract concept, exchange nice words about ideas and past experiences or philosophycal thoughts, or, take a look in a virtual sense in the situations we are in right now. To observe and to feel: am I prepared to enjoy this love right now, to feel it, or to put it down, to excuse it, or to hold it at the surface?

This is also connected to another concept of ”Energy Pedagogy”, the ”Teachering”. The teacher here becomes the student if he is ready to study and to accept each experience in the current moment, and to pass it on. In ”Essential Inquiry” and ”Process Meditation” a spiritual disciple has to be prepared to look in general at the facts of his/her encounter with others and the environment. He/she has to accept these facts and be affected by there impacts. Thus the facts form the basis from which we can sink down, willing to accept and to completely surrender to a profound truth without resistance, enthusiasm, fear, etc. My experience shows that we reach freedom and deep love if we follow this stream and don't disturbe the process.

K: And the "Middle Course of Confluence"?

S: This is a practical method. We can learn to accept different elements in daily life which seem to be contrary. We live in a culture which is accustomed to thesis and antithesis. This perspective easily leads to strife, even to war. It supports being right – my opinion, detachment. The ”Middle Course of Confluence” advises bringing dualities together by observing them from a different perspective, to question the larger wholeness behind them. Like the Aikido Teacher who absorbs the attack, neutralizes the process, yet alters it into a learning effect for the offender. It is different from methods which have a prescribed path and which lay down rules for right and wrong, good and bad.

The point here is to quite practically go one's own way, to look around in the process, to be in constant resonance with the profound truth within us. What is right today may be different tomorrow, since people and the environment are changing. You habe to understand te inner movement, that's the point. For that purpose, you don't need rules and you don't need exceptions to these rules. When rules cease, consciousness must increase in order to be able to feel what is resonant with what fits right now.

K: In ”Process Inquiry” - a method of communication in LEP – we do follow the process. What is the connection to ”Process Meditation”?

S: The basis of both is movement. In ”Process Inquiry”, the themes are mostly interpersonal, and we focus on communication. It is the movement in ”Process Meditation” which leads us to the oneness within us.

K: Thus we could say that it is somehow like an effective inquiry with oneself.

S: It's heading in this direction, but with a different accentuation. Communication is less important. The quality is more quiet, wordless, sinking. In this way, you come to the essential level. To follow this sinking process with an inquiring mindset makes it possible to dissolve dualities, and to lead them to unity – which is the purpose of the ”Middle Course of Confluence”.

K: It seems to me that especially these days, we need this quality?

S: Yes, because these days, shallow or naive questions bring ineffective answers. Instead, we need a questioning, an inquiry, which starts in ourselves and then expands to our environment.

If we take a deeper look into ourselves, we may honestly find the facts of our own life, and our needs. Our willingness to do something for this world, to look, to feel how this forms into a common denominator with others, thus on a spiritual level may become unity – even though beliefs, opinions, or religions are different. Only then is peace possible – that's how I see it. We are all looking for it, but yet, we are not in the position to find it. It's about time to change this.


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